The Uninsured Patient Experiment
Posted by Mark on November 27th, 2006
Constantly hearing in the media about three particular major shortcomings of the healthcare system in the U.S. and a recent encounter of a friend, has lead me to pursue “The Uninsured Patient Experiment.”
The three shortcomings of the U.S. healthcare system I’m referencing are the increasing cost of healthcare, the number of uninsured people and bankruptcy filings due to medical bills. Every time you visit a provider or try to renew or obtain health insurance you are seeing the effect of the increased costs. There are over 40 million people without health insurance coverage and everyday that number is increasing. The combination of the first 2 issues leads to the third. Rising prices and no insurance have made medical bills a leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S.
A close friend of mine (we’ll call him Mr. X who was uninsured at the time) needed some laboratory tests performed at the direction of their doctor.
I armed Mr. X with some information and told him to call them and try to bargain. He called the hospital and spoke with a billing person who said that because they had no insurance there wasn’t a negotiated fee schedule and they had to pay the full amount. However, the hospital would be happy to work out a payment plan which spread the payments out over 18 months with no interest. Mr, X had no other recourse other than to pay the full price over 18 months. Now, $32 a month shouldn’t force a bankruptcy, but what about more expensive procedures such as surgery or diagnostics? This piqued my interested, so began “The Uninsured Patient Experiment.”
My hypothesis was that most hospitals would not give an uninsured patient the discount they give insurance companies, but may give a payment plan. What I found is encouraging and disturbing at the same time.
The experiment starts by calling 11 hospitals in 5 states posing as a patient who made too much to receive government assistance but not enough to pay for health insurance. The procedure that was used to get prices on was a Computed Tomography, lumbar spine; with contrast material, in layman’s terms a CT scan. I chose a CT scan because they are normally not an emergency procedure so there is opportunity to shop for this service. The table below shows the data collected.
| Cost & Terms for the Un-Insured for CT Scan | ||||||
| State | Hospital | Terms | # of Beds | List Price | Best Uninsured Price | Un-scaled Medicare rate |
| Mass Hospitals | Beth Israel Hospital | If paid in full at time of service a 30% discount is applied. If not paid in full 50% down and remainder on a payment plan | 509 | $2,401.00 | $1,680.70 | ~$372.75 |
| MetroWest Medical Center | Patient accounts quoted that the procedure is normally $1300-$1500. If patient does not have insurance, Metrowest Medical Center charges them the medicare rate of $204.07 | 360 | $1,400.00 | $204.07 | ~$372.75 | |
| New York Hospitals | Mt Sinai Medical Center | Needed to call the doctor to find out what he charged for the last 3 CAT scans | 1171 | Would not divulge | ~441.62 | |
| St Vincents Midtown | Patient must come in and speak with a financial counselor or a physician about cost | 150 | Would not divulge | ~441.62 | ||
| Texas Hospitals | Hendrick Med Center | 50% discount payable in full at time of service or 25% discount and a payment plan for the balance. Person believes it is interest free but is not positive. | 362 | $1,013.39 | $506.70 | ~$340.6 |
| Christus Spohn Shoreline | Financial counselor said if patient brings in proof of income there is a 60% discount up front, payable at time of service. If no proof of income then a 40% discount is applied. Further payment plans need to be discussed w/ counselor. | 148 | $3,970.00 | $1,588.00 | ~$340.6 | |
| North Dakota Hospitals | Meritcare Health System | They offer a 10% discount and payment schedule. Balances of $500-$1000 to be paid in 3-5 months but will allow 8 months. The reading charge of $175 they want pd 3-5 months | 582 | $1,275.00 | $1,147.50 | ~$299.93 |
| Altru Hospital | Patient services quoted approx $2600 for 1 view. They want 1/2 down and balance paid in 6 months. If 1/2 payment can’t be put down, payment arrangements can be made. | 277 | $2,600.00 | $2,600.00 | ~$299.93 | |
| Mercy Med Center | Quoted $2178.54 plus a reading charge (didn’t know what it was). Hospital gives 20% discount if paid in full within 60 days. Financial application must be filled out before terms can be set up | 87 | $2,178.54 | $1,742.83 | ~$299.93 | |
| Florida Hospitals | Tampa General Hospital | Patient accounts quoted $2095 full cost/will apply 30% discount($1466.50) of which they want 70% down at time of service($1026.50)/have to sign promissory note for balance/interest free payment plan initiated | 818 | $2,095.00 | $1,466.50 | ~$353.79 |
| Heart of Florida Regional Hospital | Offer 50% discount. If payment can’t be made at time of service balance can be financed. | 142 | $2,487.19 | $1,243.60 | ~$353.79 |
Here are some quick observations:
- The list price varies by 75% ($1,013 to $3,970).
- The best uninsured price varies by 92% ($204 to $2,600).
- List price discounts range from 0% to 86%.
- To get many of the discounts hospitals offer the balance needs to be paid in full at the time of service or a large down payment made, to receive it.
- Some hospitals are unwilling to divulge the price over the phone and others will not call back.
The process to collect the information was laborious requiring numerous phone calls and conversations with people in multiple departments. Although the idea of shopping for procedures is a good one, the reality is the information is not easily obtained or not the answer you were hoping for. The healthcare industry stands alone with its lack of shopping convenience and pricing consistency. The most important thing to recognize is that when a hospital’s Medicare/Medicaid admissions constitute 50% or greater of their total admissions and gives significantly reduced prices, it shows that the lower prices are financially acceptable. How can they then justify the astronomical markup they charge the uninsured?.
What if the government mandated that any hospital that accepts Medicare/Medicaid, must also allow the uninsured to pay based on the same fee schedule? It’s not universal healthcare, but it’s a step towards fixing the much broken system.
While we wait for the government to act, there are steps you can take to reduce your potential burden of medical expenses. Knowing your local hospitals policy for the uninsured today can save a tremendous amount of money and hardship if you have an emergency tomorrow. If you don’t know the hospital’s policy upfront, you may be subjected to higher prices, perhaps even the threat of bankruptcy if the procedure or procedures you need done exceed your financial means. Instead of going to the emergency room for routine and non life threatening tests, consider a stand alone walk-in clinic or one that you are starting to see show up in your local pharmacy or discount mega-store. New tools are being introduced every day to help consumers navigate the health care system. Find them and use them, before you have to and recognize that all hospitals are not equal.
What can providers do to reduce the burden that the high price of medical care puts on the uninsured? First and foremost, set reasonable list prices for procedures or offer discounts that an uninsured person can actually get without paying the majority or entire balance in full at the time of service. Perhaps introducing a sliding scale pricing structure based on income would be a fair way of helping the uninsured. A whole other can of worms that parallels this issue is the rate at which hospitals are litigating against patients for unpaid bills. Maybe instead of paying the lawyers, they could give the proper discounted rate to the uninsured and avoid the legal cycle and debt disputes from the onset.
Some hospitals will work with the uninsured proactively and should be recognized for it. How would you suggest approaching this financial and societal crisis?

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November 27th, 2006 at 6:15 pm
I hope the “no comments” doesn’t mean this article hasn’t been read, because it’s excellent. Beyond the shopping around and arming yourself with knowledge, it would seem that healthcare reform could logically start with the hospitals themselves. Well written, good job.
January 19th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
This is an excellent article. I wonder if getting a lawyer involved would help. I am not normally advocating lawyers but maybe that’s what it would take to get fare pricing for the uninsured. Surely this falls under discrimnation of some sort. I know when we were amoung the uninsured I would immediately go in and state we are uninsured and are willing to pay cash up front if we get some sort of discount. This worked in CA for not in FL.
March 23rd, 2007 at 8:25 am
I enjoyed reading the articles and the expertise in research. I work for a health insurance company and we look for ways to make insurance more affordable and to educate our customers with new tools. I’ll share some of this information with my peers. THank you!
May 31st, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Great article. As a provider, I am aware of the costs that must be covered in calculating some of the list prices. I also recently became indirectly involved in a matter in which an uninsured person had to go to an emergency department, obviously not by choice, and without much time to shop for the best rates. She signed the usual admission paperwork including acceptance of all fees. Of course the actual services, equipment needed, and estimated fees were not disclosed at the time of her admission. When she received separate bills for technical and professional fees, she was surprised to find out she owed over $1,800 for services that any health plan would pay much less. I suggested she try to negotiate a lower fee and/or a payment plan. My personal question is on the legality and validity of such a contract. She clearly did not accept to pay a specific amount for services rendered, and whatever the contract she signed said, she signed it under duress. I was also surprised at the limited number of sites with advice on this specific matter.